In the end, the McGreeveys, the Corzines, they’re all going to be with me – not because they like me – but because they have no choice.
- George Norcross, FBI Recording
It was a mere ten years ago that the FBI tapes, secretly recorded by Palmyra councilman John Gural, were released. They paint a considerably unflattering portrait of South Jersey Machine Boss George Norcross. The threats, the cursing, the offering of rewards for compliance – not exactly a Frank Capra film, or at least not how one would end (Norcross was not prosecuted and in fact has become more powerful since).
It seems apropos to take a look back and see some of these comments with the benefit of 10 years.
Audio Tape 1. norcrossgetnjampa
Audio Tape 2. norcrossgetnjampb
John Gural: I heard a rumor today. I don’t want … I don’t think it’s true but that Lou Greenwald is going to work for Remington.
George Norcross: No, it’s true.
JG: It is true?
Norcross: Yeah, practice of law and they made him a gigantic offer.
JG: No shit?
Norcross: I had a conversation with Remington [of Remington and Vernick]… I said over the years, I will say the last five or six years they have really neglected their base in Burlington, Gloucester counties and they’ve lost I think a lot of good will and that and that’s because of Schoor-DePalma and you [JCA Associates] who have basically slid in and developed that good will and I think their eye was off the ball and uh, they realized they needed to create some good will so they made Lou an offer he couldn’t turn down.
Mark Neisser: And his job is more like marketing?
Norcross: Oh what else would it be? No, I’m sure he’ll do some legal work for him, but it’s gonna be a joke.
Norcross: Here’s what happened. They took the benefits away and they’d promised it. But what was gonna happen is it was gonna go into a health insurance fund anyway which was gonna cut our [Commerce Bank Insurance Services] income 80%.
Norcross: So what the hell?
Norcross: Well, I’m not happy about it.
Norcross: Because uh, let’s put it this way, Steve Sweeney ain’t a happy camper so…
Norcross: Sweeney’s not a happy camper. we’ll deal with that accordingly.
Norcross: Herb, I gotta tell ya, Herb is a guy you got to keep your eye on at all times.
Norcross: During the course of the caucus, I mean he was so petrified of pissing Joe Doria off finally one day I sat him down and said “Herb, don’t fuck with me on this one. You know, don’t make nice with Joe Doria cause I’ll tell you if you ever do that and I catch you one more time doing it, you’re gonna get your fucking balls cut off.” He got the message.
Norcross: I’m just asking what would it do theoretically. Is any of the Foys now, see I think the, the Foys are going to be coming into camp because, you know Tom boy wants to be back in the fold again.
MN: What does he do for a living?
Norcross: He works for Hill International.
JG: Yeah. Tom Foy does.
Norcross: He works for Hill, so I just sent him an invitation to do our thing [Camden County Committee fundraiser]. I put on there “Foy International. You should come tomorrow night.” You know why? I told him that I will never do anything for nothing.
MN: He just got some construction uh project management.
Norcross: Yeah when Paulsen got bumped. Battleship, DRPA was there.
JG: USS New Jersey, a million dollars.
Norcross: Yeah, he’s trying to get some other stuff now.
JG: Um hum.
Norcross: Tommy you could work with and deal with... [later] And uh, you know, I’ve known Tommy for years and we’re trying to get people together and if you can emerge as this person that people like and work with I think it’s good for your business.
Norcross: Meanwhile, I predicted to these guys that you have to understand something. I’m not going to tell you this to insult you, but in the end, the McGreeveys, the Corzines, they’re all going to be with me – not because they like me – but because they have no choice.
JG: They, they know the lay of the land.
Norcross: Correct and yesterday morning I’m up in Summit, New Jersey in Jon Corzine’s home having breakfast and I talk to the guy once a week. Now the reality is he and I joke all the time that had he called me three weeks before, he would have probably saved himself probably $35 million. And every time we eat he thinks it’s a $35 million breakfast or lunch. He doesn’t give a shit, you know.
JG: I’m sure.
Norcross: He’s got more money than God. But he and McGreevey and the rest of them, Ted [Rosenberg] doesn’t mean dick to McGreevey or anybody.
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